The ‘Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice’ FAQ
April 5th, 2016




Wait–you liked this piece of hot garb?

I kind of did. This may have to do with my expectations having been lowered through the floor. It may have to do with me being a pathetic fanboy. It may have to do with my theater now having a bar–allowing you to have a beer with your popcorn for less than the price of a medium soda. I don’t know.

What I do know is that I kind of liked it I’m Ron Burgundy?

I agree with just about every criticism of the film I’ve read. BvS is deeply flawed and in a final accounting probably isn’t even a very good film. But to my mind it was an interesting failure and one worth seeing.

What makes a failure interesting?

Often, people’s complaints about a movie are really complaints that the director/writer didn’t make the movie the audience member wanted to see. For instance, Jesse Eisenberg’s Lex Luthor is not at all the Luthor I wanted. I wanted the Brian Azzarello Luthor, who sees himself as the hero, standing up for humanity against a dangerous, unaccountable godhead.

Instead, BvS gives us a character who isn’t Lex Luthor at all–he’s actually the Joker in a Luthor suit. The Luthor of BvS is a psychotic genius murderer with all sorts of serial-killer like ticks: He forces people to eat out of his hand; he leaves little objects for people to find immediately before he kills them; he gleefully tosses around photos of Martha Kent being bound up and (by implication) tortured. And his motivation, by the end of the film, is something like a madman bent on destabilizing the world and brining about chaos.

Now, I don’t really like this read on Luthor’s character. I think it’s wrong-headed and it misses much more dramatically interesting territory. But it’s pretty interesting. No one has ever tried viewing Luthor this way and while it doesn’t work for me, I didn’t dislike the journey with the character.

So Luthor isn’t Luthor. Did they screw up any other characters?

Well, Batman isn’t Batman, either. In BvS Batman is a world-weary badass who not only brands certain criminals (so as to get them killed in prison), but casually kills a whole bunch of bad guys, too. In maybe my favorite moment of the movie, Alfred questions him on his excessive use of force and Batman replies, “We’ve always been criminals Alfred. This changes nothing.”

Whoa. That’s not the Batman any of us know from the comics. The one who forces himself to never use the backdoor (meaning: killing the bad guys) because he’s afraid that if he goes through it once, he’ll never be able to close it. The one who believes that he isn’t on the wrong side of the law, but that he’s above the law.

So the Batman of BvS is also a totally different version of the character. Like the BvS Luthor, I don’t know that I like it. But again, it’s an interesting choice.

You could say the same, to a lesser degree about Superman. The Superman of BvS is kind of emo. He’s quiet and sad. He feels the weight of the world and feels torn between different courses of action. Most depictions of Superman have the character as a giant Boy Scout, who is irrepressible–almost maddeningly so–and who can always see the right path because his view of good and evil is so Manichean. But the BvS Supes isn’t as radical a departure as Luthor and Batman. And I don’t think it’s as interesting, either.

Huh. Any non-interesting failures in there?

To my eyes: Wonder Woman. They give the character very little do, which means that the actress playing WW needed to have a lot going on behind the eyes. She needed to be superior, or have a quiet contempt for the world of man, or to be the kind of warrior who relishes combat even when she’s forced to be civilized by circumstance. Think of the WW from Darwayne Cooke’s New Frontier. Or Greg Rucka’s Hiketeai. But a Wonder Woman with this little to do can’t be a cipher because otherwise she just gets lost. Which is exactly what happens to Gal Gadot.

Also, the final sequence with Doomsday is the only part of the movie where I checked my watch. Snyder is very good at directing coherent action sequences, but this felt like the sort of wrote, paint-by-numbers, CGI action finale that we see at the end of nearly every comic book movie. Was that Supes vs. Doomsday? Or Hulk vs. Abomination? Or Iron Man vs. Giant Jeff Bridges? I don’t know.

What makes these action finales is simple: In trying to amp up the spectacle, the director loses track of the logistics and geography of the fight. Audiences know there’s a Giant Final Battle going on, and that people are punching each other super hard. But beyond that, no one could explain exactly what they were seeing.

As always I’ll point to the conclusion of Fellowship of the Ring as the example of how every filmmaker should approach a climactic battle: Peter Jackson lays out the exact geography of the area, shows you which characters are where, and then follows the fight closely, and without the use of extensive jump-cuts.

Oh, I forgot. Doomsday is in this movie. Yay.

If I have one serious, foundational complaint about BvS–that is, aside from all of the stupid movie-logic holes, and forced use of “Martha,” and waste of Amy Adams, and everything else people have complained about–it’s this:

So Warner Bros. decides they’re going to reboot Superman. The first movie they do is another origin story. And then the very next movie is the death of Superman? Are you freaking kidding me?

This is tantamount to an admission that WB/DC has no Superman stories to tell. They know how to do his origin. They know how to do his death. They’ll figure out some rebirth BS. But an actual story–which has a central conflict, a narrative arc, maybe even a big idea to unpack?–sorry, boss. They’ve only been mining this character for 78 years. How could you expect them to have any good stories to tell.

Anyway, deciding to shove Doomsday and the death of Superman into a movie that features the meeting of and conflict between Batman and Superman seems, at best, a waste. And at worst a sign of creative bankruptcy within the WB/DC brain trust.

 



  1. Jeff Peterson April 5, 2016 at 10:51 am

    Also surprisingly positive on the film, which I may see again with a friend, and I will definitely pick up the extended cut on blu-ray to see whether more is better. Agree with most of the above, especially re Joker/Luthor, but a few points of respectful dissent:

    1) Snyder’s is the darkest Caped Crusader yet, for sure, but only in Nolan’s films has movie Batman clearly opposed killing; and even Nolan’s Batman “doesn’t have to save” Rās-al-Ghul, which most comics versions of Batman would have felt compelled to do. Plus his Bats was awfully cavalier about collateral property damage, even blowing up cars that stood between him and the Joker (some of which might have had people in them). That always struck me as a problem in Nolan’s interpretation of Batman, who’s about as capitalist a superhero as they come. (Though it made for cool scenes.)

    2) Could also have done without Doomsday, but it seems to me Superman’s sacrifice of himself to expresses the essence of the character more clearly than anything that’s been done with him on film. (As with another savior figure in literature, whose death caps the one story told about him.) Which isn’t to say you’re wrong about creative bankruptcy, only that the death worked for me; I guess we’ll find out for sure when we see if they have any stories worth telling after they resurrect Kal-El.

    3) I thought WW stood out pretty well (her grin in the midst of battle with Doomsday was the most enjoyable and memorable moment in the action sequences). Per some commenter, the marketing really hurt here by revealing her identity in advance, as the film itself introduced her with the idea that the viewer would take her to be Catwoman and then be surprised at the reveal.

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  3. Jeffrey S. April 8, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    Lots of good stuff in your review — not sure exactly how to respond so I’ll pull a Jeff and note my own few points of respectful dissent:

    1) Batman just worked for me from soup to nuts — I loved Alfred, I loved watching Bruce Wayne get mad at Supes, I loved the late action sequence featuring Batman (you’ll notice in that sequence that Batman doesn’t kill anyone directly — watch it again — he only forces the bad guys to kill each other through their bad choices.) I thought Snyder nailed him.

    2) The Doomsday action sequence worked for me — perhaps it featured a couple of unnecessary explosions and punches, but I could follow the action and more importantly, it created a nice way to show off how the three heroes could work together to take him down.

    3) I liked Wonder Woman overall, but as most critics have pointed out I didn’t like how she was essentially dropped into the film without any real explanation or motivation (if I had to hazard a guess I suppose she’s been spying on Luthor — for how long? — to get that one picture. Good thing she started her search at just the right time…) I was fine with the other Justice League members being teased — this wasn’t their movie but it was a clever way to get viewers ready for them down the road.

    4) You actually don’t mention this so I guess this is just my own issue with the film but the dream sequences were loopy! Only after reading loads of online commentary about Darkseid do I now understand, presumably, what the heck was going on in those dreams. But for the average viewer — not sure they served much of a purpose!

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  5. Mark April 23, 2016 at 10:09 am

    Totally disagree with your assessment on Doomsday and the death of Superman. In a perfect world the death of Superman would give DC the opportunity to spin one (or multiple) story lines from “Rise of the Supermen”:
    – Steel clearly deserves a big-screen reboot using more acting talent Shaq. I think his story will resonate more now than it did in the early 90s – and clearly everybody loves a badass in an metal suit.
    – The Metropolis Kid needs to start making some appearances in the Arrow/Flash TV-verse to start tying the movies and TV shows together ala Agents of SHIELD.
    – Man of Tomorrow and Last Son of Krypton lead at least the first half of the next Superman movie – with their questionable ethical behavior driving a darker,edgier movie (more Christian Bale Batman than any previous Superman movie) – culminating in – the fait accompli – the return of the real, no-shit Superman, placing the last piece for the Justice League thriller that is sure to not be.

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